“My name is Ray and I just ran across your site last week.”

Monday, 3. August 2009

We got this email in June. As normal it came from someone we probably offended and they had to go digging for information to muddy us up with. The typical “you’re making stuff up” came up again along with some stuff we usually get in most of the hate mail we receive. We find it funny most of the hate mail we receive tells us how we are hateful and negative but the same mail tries to call us names, belittles what we do with insults, and tries to justify the actions of those we discuss on the site.

Pretty much, if you don’t like what we do, then quit reading the site and move on. Some people feel the need to send anonymous emails to get the last cowardly word in thinking it harms us. However at most we get a good chuckle on the forums and post it on the main page where people can see the types of people who get mad enough to send us stuff like this. Now for what you have been waiting for, this weeks presentation!

My name is Ray and I just ran across your site last week. While I can say there is a lot of effort, it comes off as nothing but a shrill attempt at an outburst of something you don’t like. Most of the wording and general attitude of the site sounds like it is made by a childlike mentality that is overly concerned for what others do. The flamboyance in your writing has me wondering what your mental capacity for real world social interaction might be. I may come off as insulting you but digress, you are the one who runs a web site devoted to demonizing a select few. Then you do not offering anyone the glimpse of what how perfect you are over those you demonize. I view your vain attempt as pathetic and it makes me wonder if you are what you hate so much deep inside your soul.

Your whacker page says it all. You go into details on personal observations as offering them up as fact on silver platters. I see the only type of person who would chow down at your wealth of knowledge is those who are equally as hateful of their inner demons as you are. Your web site as you call it is not much more on the subject of unbiased fact as Wikipedia is. Both of your sites tout how much you are for doing one thing while being an outlet for the editor’s and author’s life struggles others take as reading material. As another letter posted on your web site said so well, there are no such things as whackers as you describe them. The imposter problem you quote as an epidemic is a mere crime that has fewer cases than purse snatching and red neck incest in the Bible belt.

Since you are a coward who hides behind your domain name I decided to research you a little. I was about to but chose not to pay for an overnight background on you as I would rather frequent my funds to a hobo than find what rock you live under. What I could find on the internet shows a trend of cowardice, trolling, and general lack of social empathy to anyone. I also find people speak of your handle with great disgust and you are pretty much looked at with contempt in every circle I ventured into. Like a sniveling little coward, you never use your real name or give a face for those who you belittle to look into.

Looking over your web site I found a few who faced you. Donna Clark, whom owns a legitimate fire department and Eliot, a person who you robbed photos from to add to your album are the obvious ones. Both gave you a face to look in and you couldn’t even give them your first name in return. Yet, you call them out on the very issue that you hide, standing up to those who are wrong. If it were possible, I would buy them both a round to congratulate them on facing you and winning. They won against you because you backed down from each of them. You attempted to demonize them but failed at both. You basically posted an edited version of what they said, made your rebuttal while sounding smug, and never gave them the chance to counter-rebuttal you.

I could go on all day about your web site and the mentally challenged content it spews but I won’t. Your recent updates sound like the dying breath of a lost cause on your battlefield. Your recent content consists mainly of what your hate or what others hate about you. There are no facts or premise by which your web site will thrive. Unlike Hamsexy.com, you only propel hate and anger at your readers with no humor, insight, or even collegial generated information. Your topics are rehashed from a few months before and this does nothing to keep long term readers. If the whackers were such an epidemic then you would have material oozing out at the seams of your sources. Instead you interject person opinion and dislike into each story and plaster it on the front page of a poorly designed web site.

A true blog or media site usually tries to keep things fresh. You haven’t accomplished this from day one and will never do so. I predict you will be tired of hating through a narrow beam and will grow bored with the web site subject and move on. I hope and pray (actually I’m an atheist and prayer is for the feeble minded) that you don’t hurt others or demonize others in your next subject of hatred after you flushed policeposers.com down the toilet of self serving web sites.

This is the part where I bid farewell. I have called you faceless and a coward throughout this letter several times. Now you can do the same to me. Ray was a name I chose to start this letter off as a personal one to get your attention. I am not going to reveal who I am or what I am. This is for you to think about as you find something in this letter to get mad about and go throw a tantrum about on your chat board. I also expect to see this on the policeposers site as that is where you blow your steam from your meaningless life. Just take this letter and imaging the author as everyone you have wronged in the life of your web site. Also imagine it as every person you or some simple minded admirer of your site labeled a whacker who was never one. Lights have never killed or hurt anyone but hatred and anger have killed billions. What side are you on?

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“..he saved himself from having his mediocre site destroyed by hackers”

Saturday, 18. April 2009

Policeposers, by it’s very nature and scope takes in volumes of hate mail.  For us, that’s a sign of affirmation.  Every ranting diatribe is proof we are doing our job and making those who feign authority uncomfortable and unaccepted.  Though the sources are varied, these authors all seem unified by their insecurity and need to trump-up trivialities for personal gain.

A few months ago, our servers began taking hits from a “Skywarn” forum devoted to discussing amateur storm chasing.  An individual there apparently read through to our site, was offended, and raised his grievance up the proverbial flagpole.  His battle cry stems from the fact we have devoted time to profiling those whom cling to the National Weather Service’s Skywarn program as rationale for playing flashing-light hero.  After scouring our photo album, he identified “at least five other members” of this Skywarn Online forum who’s vehicles had apparently been featured by us.  The perceived humiliation of having their sundry personal vehicles featured on our site was simply too much indignation for the amber-lighter community. There began the railing of the troops, and it brings us to the subject of this article.

The insurrection from the jilted Skywarners didn’t last long.  The attack thread was summarily closed from on the Skywarn Online forum with most rational folks asking ‘what’s the big deal?’ and moving on.  However, that didn’t satisfy at least one individual.  Soon our mailbox began taking in bellicose “threats” from a person who identified himself as Elliot Maines.

Elliot’s’ story began in that great cauldron of whacker material, the eLightbars (now The Lightbarn) forum.  A popular thread exists on that site which features images and tales of “whacker [and] screwed-up lighting.”  Without trepidation, Elliot himself posted a photo set of his own vehicle, an old Dodge Dakota replete with multiple flashing lights used presumably for “Skywarn” activities in Ohio.  An onslaught of posts ensued and he released an explanation that he “just like(s) lights in general, and…things just took off from there.”  The thread continues as he was lauded by brethren, in keeping with the atmosphere of that site.

http://www.lightbarn.com/bb/the-offical-whacker-screwed-up-lighting-thread-vt725-1225.html

The photos Elliot posted were hosted on the popular free site Photobucket.  In accordance with the explicit user agreement Elliot agreed to in posting photos on Photobucket, “Photobucket and/or other Users may copy, print or display publicly available Content outside of the Photobucket Services, including without limitation, via the Site or third party websites or applications.”  Therefore, they entered the public domain and any claim he had to such images is lost.

View the full Photobucket TOS: http://photobucket.com/terms

From: Emaines01

Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 10:22 AM

To: policeposers@gmail.com

Subject: Theft of Photos by user Rabidjade

As humorous as I may find your site, it has come to my attention that user “Rabidjade” has posted pictures of my vehicle, claiming ownership of the photos. These photos were taken from my photobucket account without any approval for reposting. I do not know this individual, but I am demanding that you remove them immediately, and suggest you suspend the user’s account, due to suspicion of photo theft elsewhere. I have taken a screen shot of the thread, and will submit it to my representing law firm, McGuire & Schneider of Columbus, Ohio.

http://www.policeposers.com/album/main.php?g2_itemId=922

Elliott Maines

Cincinnati, Ohio

He didn’t like our denial to remove them and become more irrational:

From: Emaines01

The photos have been removed from Photobucket and are not to be considered public domain by you, your website, or anyone else without my approval. Secondly, the term “Came out of the closet in a popular forum” alleges homosexuality, which is completely slanderous. This is my final warning you to before turning this matter over to my attorney. Delete the thread.

After we attempted to broker an agreement to satisfy him, we began to see a disingenuous nature emerge.  Instead of having any sincere interest in discretion, he was actually playing us on the Skywarn Online forum.  While he sent us trumped-up threats, he was publicly threatening that we would be the supposed victim of cyber attacks to his internet friends.

From: Elliott

The guy “Rabidjade” finaly got some sense and removed the pics, after some childish bickering about legalities and his sad sense of self entitlement. Oh well…he saved himself from having his mediocre site destroyed by hackers or flooded with stuff he wouldn’t have cared for. At least this site has a positive purpose.

and

From: Elliott

I ended up going a few rounds with the guy without getting the lawyer involved, but I think I made him feel dumb. He got into the legalese of Photobucket and public property, and I explained that even with his association with law enforcement, I wasnt impressed with his goal of judging people, and that he was putting a lot of energy into a mediocre site. I deleted the pics from Photobucket anyway. Had he persisted, I would have just forwarded the site link to my hacker friends…he would have experienced technical problems with his site.

As a unilateral gesture of our good nature and due to the commotions started elsewhere over this subject, we removed the photo album that was Elliot’s point of contention.  Though we had no legal obligation to do so, it was done as a courtesy to Elliot.  However, he subsequently chose to threaten us and that will not be tolerated from anyone.

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To Arms, To Arms!

Sunday, 8. March 2009

This was the rallying call heard recently on the Skywarnonline.com forums in a thread entitled- Skywarn members credibility could be risk. The call to arms was answered by several fellow storm spotters/chasers/foamers. They were upset over our posting of public domain obtained images showing various Skywarn members vehicles with various states of lighting obsessions. Within hours the thread was locked and then taken away to some hiding spot.

Contained in that thread was a plethora of complaining, whining, arm chair lawyering, and attempted investigations into policeposers creator’s personal history through the website host and domain. While none of those accomplished anything, it was funny how much effort people put into finding dirt on someone who questioned their motivation for lighting abuse. A common misconception of the whackers in society is that the creator runs this web site alone. Well, the website is coded by the creator and webmaster of policeposers, but the content is created and distributed by an advisory board or staff who work behind the scenes to bring to light the topics on the site. Want proof? Ask any staff member on our forums and they will repeat what we have said here.

Why are we posting this? Well, it’s simple, to illustrate the mentality of some people. The posted photos were found via reader submissions of the individual’s Photobucket.com accounts which are posted in the Public Domain-

“Photobucket.com Terms of Service
Proprietary Rights in Content on Photobucket.

6.1 Photobucket does not claim any ownership rights in the text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, musical works, works of authorship, applications, or any other materials (collectively, “Content”) that you post on or through the Photobucket Services. By displaying or publishing (“posting”) any Content on or through the Photobucket Services, you hereby grant to Photobucket and other users a non-exclusive, fully paid and royalty-free, worldwide, limited license to use, modify, delete from, add to, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce and translate such Content, including without limitation distributing part or all of the Site in any media formats through any media channels, except Content marked “private” will not be distributed outside the Photobucket Services. Photobucket and/or other Users may copy, print or display publicly available Content outside of the Photobucket Services, including without limitation, via the Site or third party websites or applications (for example, services allowing Users to order prints of Content or t-shirts and similar items containing Content).”

We then reposted them in our policeposers photo album. Instead of taking the time to actually read Photobucket.com’s rules that are signed by every user, the “armchair” lawyers in the thread instead started shouting “Copyright infringement!!” despite there being none. The information above was communicated to the original poster of the thread and was ignored. Instead we received a very “colorful” bit of hate-mail:

“Salutations!

You are a true (ADMIN EDIT).  You have nothing better to do than to talk crap and hide behind your web site.  I know people like you and despise them.  People like me need to use lights to keep our head with our body, aka OUR SAFETY!  People like you don’t care a damn about safety and try to press your narrow-minded and shallow agenda on all of those who are dumb enough to listen.  Take a chill pill and drop your whole self loathing whacker act, it’s depressing for you and makes you look like a freak to everyone else.  Also drop the act your web site is a huge community and accept you are the only pin head capable of such rambling.  Also you can remove my pictures from your web site and keep them off there or I will keep you tied up in court and drain your bank account faster than you can say you have no life.  SKYWARN gives more back to the community than you can hope to dream of.  Web sites like yours are only around to vent frustration of being butt raped mentally by someone bigger than you are.  I can be crude and vicious but low life scum like you sometimes need it to get it through your thick Neanderthal skull.  I hope SKYWARN fails to see a tornado in your town and it kills you so those who volunteer for the community can be safe from your anti-safety selfish ramblings.  Did I sound crude, sure I did to make a point you will pay attention to.  While you are in your house getting drunk and beating on your wife, WE are out there helping the weather forecasters bring news to those who need it.  You can thank me later but you won’t since you are an (ADMIN EDIT).  If you post this in anywhere, I will sue you for harassment so don’t get any funny ideas.

REMOVED

Certified SKYWARN Spotter and CERTIFIED TO HAVE LIGHTS!”

Now we are NOT saying Skywarn is a “waste” or “useless”, it is a very much needed service, but there is no need to be a whacker while doing it. NOWHERE has anyone on this site questioned the usefulness of, or called for the disbandment of, the Skywarn program. On the contrary several of our members are Skywarn trained spotters, who by the way, have no burning desire or compulsion to mount amber lights to their vehicles. Now to make our position perfectly clear to those who don’t seem to get it- We here at Policeposers.com do NOT have a problem with the Skywarn program, but with the flagrant abuse of emergency lighting by some of it’s members. Now let’s take a closer look at some excerpts from the letter.

“People like me need to use lights to keep our head with our body, aka OUR SAFETY!  People like you don’t care a damn about safety and try to press your narrow-minded and shallow agenda on all of those who are dumb enough to listen.”

Actually Skywarn does NOT “need” emergency lighting. Skywarn spotters are NOT “emergency responders”, despite what many may think, who need to move traffic while responding, exceed the speed limit, or block roads. As for “not caring” about safety, many members of this site are actual emergency responders, many with 10+yrs of experience in Law Enforcement, Fire Department, or Emergency Medical Services who are acutely aware of the safety issues. However, unlike the true emergency services, Skywarn spotters have NO duty to enter or remain in a dangerous situation. A Skywarn spotter who finds themselves in a situation where their “head could be separated from their body” should LEAVE, because no amount of lights is going to stop it. Lastly, there is a big difference between someone who during storm season carries an amber mag-mount throw light for use when visibility is decreased by bad weather while chasing v.s. someone who has lights mounted full-time which consist of a full-size LED lightbar, grille lights, rear deck lights, & hide-a-way strobes and the lights all have clear lenses so the public doesn’t know what color they really are. Also don’t forget the examples that have been posted showing the use of red and/or blue lights by “Skywarn” spotters in states where such use is ILLEGAL!

“…CERTIFIED TO HAVE LIGHTS!”

Really, by who?

“I can be crude and vicious but low life scum like you sometimes need it to get it through your thick Neanderthal skull.  I hope SKYWARN fails to see a tornado in your town and it kills you so those who volunteer for the community can be safe from your anti-safety selfish ramblings. …While you are in your house getting drunk and beating on your wife, WE are out there helping the weather forecasters bring news to those who need it.”

Right, real mature, so I guess our members who work in the true emergency services are just wasting their time.

“If you post this in anywhere, I will sue you for harassment so don’t get any funny ideas.”

I’m sorry, but no it’s not harassment, especially since you initiated contact. In fact you apparently gave as little concern to our site rules as to Photobucket.com’s-

“Policeposers.com Legal Disclaimer

6. Any emails to policeposers@gmailDOTcom/admin@policeposersDOTcom, intended for, or in reference to the policeposers.com website become part of the policeposers.com collection and can be used at the webmaster’s discretion.

So by submitting the above E-mail you gave us unlimited authority to repost it, since it is “in reference to the policeposers.com website”.

“Did I sound crude, sure I did to make a point you will pay attention to.”

Actually all you did was give us, and likely our readers, a good laugh.

It’s easy for someone to post a degrading complaint about someone else on a different message board surrounded by his friends who will blindly support him & knowing that the original person won’t see it, but it takes a bigger man to go to the original forum & seriously debate the issue. So, if you have a problem with something on the site, you’re welcome to join the forums and discuss it in a civilized manor. And yes, before you ask, the pictures will be going back up. We haven’t broken any laws in the capacity they are displayed. As we always say- “If you advertise your stupidity on the internet, don’t get mad when someone finds it and calls you on it.” This is especially true when you’re doing stuff outside the normal realm of society- how many vehicles do you see with double their value in lights installed chasing clouds?

-Policeposers.com Staff

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Fan Letter of a Sort

Friday, 23. January 2009

This is one of the emails we receive each week regarding the site. The thing different with this one is they can’t find anything to pick on so they go for the last resort, how much time is spent on PolicePosers.com. This is usually an attack angle by those who can’t find any dirt on our staff. Then they want to try to insult us on something that is easy for the email author to say without having to prove it. It gave us a good laugh and showed how desperate some are to downplay or insult our cause.

RE: OMG you guys aren’t serious?

Thanks for going to all that trouble to formulate & regularly update your website we (the rest of the virtual community) needed a really good laugh… must take a lot of your personal time to maintain, you seem to have that in abundance eh?

Your stand point on aftermarket vehicle fitments like driving lamps & bull/nudge bars is flawed… vehicles are built to a price point not an accessory cap!

Keep up the excellent use of your spare time at least it keeps you off the streets and out of trouble :)

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I guess we are dead wrong

Friday, 10. October 2008

We got this email a few weeks back via a personal email account. We are finding an increase of hate mail being sent to our personal email accounts instead of the official channels on the web site. People might be doing this in an effort to avoid us posting it publicly such as this email. As you can see from this email, we see another example with a combination of hate, anger, misconception, immature insults, and someone trying to justify their existence to us. As in the past and with this email, we don’t care but like the entertainment. Enjoy!

Hello sir,

I just wanted to let you know some things you are wrong on. First of all, whackers don’t exist, they are a made up term used by jelous people who have no idea what they are talking about. Take an example that you can comrephend, look at any dictionary and look up the term whacker and you will not find anything related or close to lighting abuse. Your web site is a imposture that is misleading the small audience you account for on a daily basis. You sir are no better than the media in their constant lies and picking at the truth to make their side look like it’s the only one. Your web site makes no sense to the educated man and quite honestly makes my head hurt when I read the garbled message and makes my eyes bleed on the self righteous harassment you perform on others without exposing what kind of slack jawed mouthbrether you happen to be.

Before you turn the argument on me, I will tell you what I do. I am a member of React and have been a proud member for over 20 years. Laugh at how you will make me out like a whacker but then again sir, there is no such things as whackers. I find it funny that you base your sole argument off of something you made up. There are no such things as whackers or even wannabes. I have rotators on my truck because I can and I need them. I don’t abuse them like you want to make it look like and I don’t pull people over like you want to make it look like. We are allowed by the state to use lights so you might want to call them out and attack them if you hate them so bad for letting us use lights to help others and save lives.

The internet has made it easier for mouthbreathers like you exist. You can make stuff up and hide behind it while picking on others for no other reason than to be the tough guy on the internet. Sad for you sir that the law is still on the side of the innocent you pick on. I like how you get threats all the time and how you give others plenty of ammo to bring you down and put you into the poor house. Why don’t you add a counter argument to your made up stuff. Like tell us why groups like React need lights and why they would save the lives of those like you who wont put out a finger to help anyone. Its funny how your whole web site is one sided with nothing other than (ADMIN EDIT), (ADMIN EDIT), and moaning. I’ve seen some myspace web sites with more class and content than your web site.

Take the suggestion sir and get a life. Go outside and enjoy life rather than hating everyone who needs to use lights to save lives. If you insist on picking on retards and other mouthbreathers, pick on vollie firefighters. Those clowns drive like maniacs and run people off the street thinking their (ADMIN EDIT) was on fire. Quit picking on those who are out to save lives and start picking on moutbreathers like those who run people off the road because they want to be the hero. If you want to keep being an internet bully, pick on everyone rather than a few like you have been.

I was going to register on your forums to make my point. But when I glansed over them, I felt it wasn’t worth wasting my time. Your forums are infested by moutbreathers such as yourself and the obvious mentality of worship the master mouthbreather was evident. I left it at that and dont plan on paying your web site or it internet forums any more patronage as I would be overwhelmed with the blatant ignorance and putting the fake whacker meaning on a pedestal for all those who want to beleive in the lies.

You sir, have a good life. Keep in mind with your retoric that what goes around comes around and your hatred and slander will one day cost you.

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elightbars.org/policeposers.com sucks by kgowen4444

Monday, 15. March 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YWotIwtWQo

This video was brought to our attention by one of our staff members. Basically this video was made by a person that goes by kgowen4444 or better yet, Kevin Gowen. He signed up on our forums awhile back and was moved to the restrictive group right away due to his background in amber light infatuation. He quickly signed up with a second account using false information to circumvent his previous restrictions. He was banned for doing this. His ride has been featured on Hamsexy.com and elightbars.org (now lightbarn.com) for it’s amber/clear Vision light bar and it’s wide collection of antennae.

Well, in response to this, Kevin supposedly created an account on Youtube.com under the user name “proudredneckwhacker” and posted the above video acting like a kid that was just grounded. While only elightbars.org was mentioned in the audio of the video, policeposers.com was mentioned in the video description. With the popularity increasing, Kevin removed the video from his alleged proudredneckwhacker account. Well, we saved a copy and now feature it above. Enjoy!

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